Once a diabetic, what is the longest time frame an individual can go before medicine is used for intervention?
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I.E.: Once a diagnosis of Type II, always Type II is what I’ve been told. But how long can you go before medicinal intervention is needed? How long can/will diet and exercise alone work on an individual if they do take care of themselves for the most part like the doctors tell them to?
Are there any guidelines to this gray area???? I Know once you begin taking an insulin pill (or pill for insulin regulation- ast least I’ve been told), that is usually good for about 10 yrs nad then you go up to a different level and so forth until you become insulin dependent.
My husband and I were arguing over this one. Any help out there?
As each of us is an unique individual, food plan and exercise helps some for many many years and some it doesn’t work for at all. The same for the oral antidiabetic meds, it is an individual reaction as to how much they will help.
Some people I know have been able to have good control with food and movement alone. Some have good control with food, movement and one pill for years. Some never do get any control at all.
If you follow the doctor’s instructions which are tainted by American Diabetes Associan you will never gain any control even if you take the whole pharmacy of antidiabetic pills and a couple of different insulins.
There are 7 classes of diabetes meds 2 of which are injections. 5 different classes of pills do different things. then there is the Byetta injection which is not insulin nor used with insulin. The last class is insulins from long acting 24 hour, to instant acting.
Diabetes type 2 is a progressive disease and progresses at its own speed in each of us. No two of us are alike in how this disease affects us. What works for me, may not work for you, kind of thing.
Some people immediately start taking antidiabetic drugs. Some can get by with just changing their lifestyle. All of us must change our lifestyle, that one is a given, no matter if we can avoid pills and injections or not.
One friend is maintaining no meds by severly limiting carbohydrates and spending most of the day exercising. She is eating approximately 5 grams of carb per meal. Which means no fruits or veggies. Almost all meat food plan.
10 yrs ago my glucose was so high the doc put me on a combination pill for attempt to control this disease. the insurance co said they wouldn’t pay for this pill, I had to have one part or the other to start. Now I am paying for 3 antidiabetic pills and 2 insulins!!! also the statin they think is necessary for all diabetics to take and high blood pressure for the same reason!! They say it is all the same as if we have already had a heart event.
There is no time frame for advancing to another type of medication for controling this disease!! Most of us take cocktails of antidiabetes meds.
There are no insulin pills available. the digestive system would kill any insulin before it got into the system. The inhaled insulin didn’t work very well. too many people were unable to control their dosages with it. and doctors didn’t prescribe enough of it to make it worthwhile to keep on the market.
Don’t argue about these things. Go to http://www.diabetes.about.com and read the articles Guide Deb has written.



it really, truly depends on if the patient is following the diet guidelines or not, and to what extent. I have seen people manage NIDDM (type II) solely through diet and excercise, but it is up to the patient to work that out with their doctor.
However, if a strict diet is not being followed, the pill alternative may be neccassary to prevent severe illness and/or hospitalizations.
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As each of us is an unique individual, food plan and exercise helps some for many many years and some it doesn’t work for at all. The same for the oral antidiabetic meds, it is an individual reaction as to how much they will help.
Some people I know have been able to have good control with food and movement alone. Some have good control with food, movement and one pill for years. Some never do get any control at all.
If you follow the doctor’s instructions which are tainted by American Diabetes Associan you will never gain any control even if you take the whole pharmacy of antidiabetic pills and a couple of different insulins.
There are 7 classes of diabetes meds 2 of which are injections. 5 different classes of pills do different things. then there is the Byetta injection which is not insulin nor used with insulin. The last class is insulins from long acting 24 hour, to instant acting.
Diabetes type 2 is a progressive disease and progresses at its own speed in each of us. No two of us are alike in how this disease affects us. What works for me, may not work for you, kind of thing.
Some people immediately start taking antidiabetic drugs. Some can get by with just changing their lifestyle. All of us must change our lifestyle, that one is a given, no matter if we can avoid pills and injections or not.
One friend is maintaining no meds by severly limiting carbohydrates and spending most of the day exercising. She is eating approximately 5 grams of carb per meal. Which means no fruits or veggies. Almost all meat food plan.
10 yrs ago my glucose was so high the doc put me on a combination pill for attempt to control this disease. the insurance co said they wouldn’t pay for this pill, I had to have one part or the other to start. Now I am paying for 3 antidiabetic pills and 2 insulins!!! also the statin they think is necessary for all diabetics to take and high blood pressure for the same reason!! They say it is all the same as if we have already had a heart event.
There is no time frame for advancing to another type of medication for controling this disease!! Most of us take cocktails of antidiabetes meds.
There are no insulin pills available. the digestive system would kill any insulin before it got into the system. The inhaled insulin didn’t work very well. too many people were unable to control their dosages with it. and doctors didn’t prescribe enough of it to make it worthwhile to keep on the market.
Don’t argue about these things. Go to http://www.diabetes.about.com and read the articles Guide Deb has written.
References :
I used to subscribe to all the hype. I’ve been a type two for at least five years. (who knows how long I was "pre diabetic?). I was on Metformin for about five years. After much research and trial and error, I discovered a simple formula… one that Dr. Joel Fuhrman has been prescribing for years. Don’t believe that propaganda that meat is the way to go… that’s pure nonsense. I wish I could share all the trials and errors that I’ve endured while discovering the truth with you, but it would take volumes. The simplified truth is, eat what our bodies were designed to eat. Since adopting this simple premise, and eating LOTS of fruits and vegetables, my sugar levels have dropped. So much so, that I QUIT taking the Metformin over two months ago. My sugar level has been consistently normal ever since. It’s all about NUTRITION… not meat, not medicine, just nutrition and exercise. So type two diabetes is only a "progressive" disease if you continue to do what caused it… eating a lousy diet, not getting enough exercise, and carrying around too much weight. Read more about how I got off the medication on my diabetes blog: http://www.geocities.com/seabulls69/Type_II_Diabetes.html
It really isn’t rocket science. It’s just common sense. Unfortunately, only a handful of people have it these days.
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Type 2 Diabetes can be controlled
By Diet and Exercises
See
Why carbs are the wrong foods for diabetics
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/diabetes-4.html
&
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/diabetes-3.html
&
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/diabetes-6.html
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